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Post by justypro on Jan 25, 2010 2:05:48 GMT -5
my other ride, miss driving it everyday already...but it is now a hobby weekend warrior, no sense in putting lots o miles on it, plus 18 mpg isnt as good as 30 plus....dam...
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SeattleJusty
No, a boxer will not fit in a Justy.
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Post by SeattleJusty on Jan 25, 2010 11:44:16 GMT -5
Goodness. I spend some of my free time working on my electrician's 2000 Mustang GT exactly like yours. I have so many unkind things to say about Ford after being so intimate with these Mustangs. Mercy on you if your brake booster goes bad. P.M. me for advice in such case.
P.S. In my garage on a pallet is a complete IRS and sub-frame from a 2003 Mustang-Cobra waiting to be transplanted into said Mustang GT.
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Post by justypro on Jan 25, 2010 21:01:37 GMT -5
bah, im a drag racer, that does street duty, i dont need an IRS. altho i do have a t-56 sitting on my floor, along with a vortec super charger.
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SeattleJusty
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Post by SeattleJusty on Jan 26, 2010 0:55:01 GMT -5
"Bah" indeed. I don't know the specs on the T45 but a T5 has I believe less than 30LBs of rotating mass compared to a T56's 60LBs of rotating mass. If the T5 and T45 are anything alike then that's adding a whole bunch of spinning weight to have an extra gear you don't use in the 1/4 mile.
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Post by justypro on Jan 26, 2010 9:24:05 GMT -5
adding the t-56 really isnt about the quarter mile, lol. its more to do with having a 6 speed, always like them. what i lose in weight tho, i gain in drivability. steeper gears in the rear and the choice to put a steep 6th allow me to run normal rpm at highway speed, good for part longevity. I may enjoy dragging but it still has to be a reliable street car first. And to be honesty ive had way less problems with my mustang in the 3 years ive owned it than the 3 months that ive had my justy lol
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SeattleJusty
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Post by SeattleJusty on Jan 26, 2010 13:36:11 GMT -5
So really it's a street car that does some drag duty. Well I'm glad you've had more luck with your Mustang than my friend has. A Justy is certainly easier to service in every way than a late model Mustang. Me personally though; my Gen1 Justy DL has been the most dependable car I've ever owned. She will be getting much wanted attention this coming Spring.
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Post by justypro on Jan 26, 2010 19:30:45 GMT -5
lol when put that way yea, more of a street car doing drag duty. But now that its not my everyday car who knows. In any case this has been for the most part a much easier car to work on, the mustang has a lot more challenging things you get to play with. Either way this is still a reliable car, but ever since high school ive never been much of a fan of a car that can finish the quarter mile before it finishes its 0-60 lol , thats probebly not quite true but you get the point im sure. Over all the mustang has only had issues because someone hammered the shit out of it without taking car of it, so i had to fix things when i bought it, but other than that 30plus thousand miles and only one problem, not bad for a ford i guess.
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SeattleJusty
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Post by SeattleJusty on Jan 27, 2010 11:36:27 GMT -5
Indeed. I love my Fords. I was raised in a Ford family and I have an English Ford in my garage right now. I just wish they still made them like they did in the 60s and 70s.
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Post by justypro on Jan 27, 2010 22:41:24 GMT -5
to be honest there were only a few things that i like better about my 70 mustang. Better general styling, way easier to work on, and usually less expensive. other than that, mine 2000 is easier to make nicer, more reliable, faster and generally put together with tighter tolerences. Or at least that the perception, since alot probebly has to do with age.
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SeattleJusty
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Post by SeattleJusty on Jan 27, 2010 23:47:00 GMT -5
I just like how on your 1970 Mustang if the brake booster failed, replacing it isn't a drivers seat out, contortionist under the dashboard, powersteering fluid everywhere, mig welder, all day affair.
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Post by justypro on Jan 28, 2010 21:14:57 GMT -5
lol, the price you pay for snap together technology...lol
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SeattleJusty
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Post by SeattleJusty on Jan 29, 2010 13:28:18 GMT -5
Exactly and by the way, I'm not joking about the mig welder.
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Post by imaginarius on Jan 29, 2010 16:22:21 GMT -5
It's like you guys are private messaging, only everyone can see it all. Fun!
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Post by justypro on Jan 29, 2010 20:29:39 GMT -5
meh i figured id get a few more people interested but im happy talking with anyone really. lol. I figured you werent joking, but im trying to picture what exactly you would have needed the welder for, since as far as i know its a big replaceable part...no welding required on most every standard car repair haha. In any case welding doesnt scare me in the least, im a welder/fabricator, i actually enjoy the challenge of something new.
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Post by justypro on Jan 29, 2010 20:30:37 GMT -5
for that matter thought about making my own suspension parts, you know tubular control arms and such.
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Post by SeattleJusty on Jan 30, 2010 5:58:41 GMT -5
OK so here's what's gonna happen when your hydrobooster fails. You'll go to the stealership, find out that even though this body style went out of production only a few years ago, they already stopped making parts for it, then you'll go to the parts store, try to buy a new one, get the news from them that a rebuilt/core exchange is the best you can hope for. You'll pull the driver's seat, cuss and squirm for an hour trying to get to the fasteners that live up above the brake pedal but cannot be seen, then you'll try to undo the fasteners that live on the bay-side and one or more of the pressed-in studs will give way and spin hopelessly in the flange. After you try not to damage the paint on your firewall when you sawzall the farcleer off, you will then migweld the studs to their flange on the replacement unit but only after you make a huge mess transferring all of the annoying bits that are not included with your rebuilt unit. Special note: believe it or not, the booster does hold residual pressure and when you undo the case bolts to reappropriate necessary hardware, be sure to wear eye protection because it is gonna explode and spray power-steering fluid everywhere, especially into your face.
Not. . . not that I know anything about that. . .
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Post by SeattleJusty on Jan 30, 2010 6:03:39 GMT -5
OK so here's what's gonna happen when your hydrobooster fails. You'll go to the stealership, find out that even though this body style went out of production only a few years ago, they already stopped making parts for it, then you'll go to the parts store, try to buy a new one, get the news from them that a rebuilt/core exchange is the best you can hope for. You'll pull the driver's seat, cuss and squirm for an hour trying to get to the fasteners that live up above the brake pedal but cannot be seen, then you'll try to undo the fasteners that live on the bay-side and one or more of the pressed-in studs will give way and spin hopelessly in the flange. After you try not to damage the paint on your firewall when you sawzall the farcleer off, you will then migweld the studs to their flange on the replacement unit but only after you make a huge mess transferring all of the annoying bits that are not included with your rebuilt unit. Special note: believe it or not, the booster does hold residual pressure and when you undo the case bolts to reappropriate necessary hardware, be sure to wear eye protection because it is gonna explode and spray power-steering fluid everywhere, especially into your face. Not. . . not that I know anything about that. . . On that note, I hate how the later Mustangs (and all late model cars) are put together with no respect to serviceability and it makes me appreciate how wonderful it is to work on a Justy. Today Jrad came up from Southern-Cal and I took him to a breaker's yard where there was a clean Gen1. I had the rear spindles off of that car in about twenty minutes and without a rattle gun. Just he & I with basic hand tools. Something tells me the Cobra IRS is gonna be a week long nightmare when it's time to pony up the pony car.
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Post by justypro on Jan 30, 2010 13:30:51 GMT -5
sounds fun. To be honest, all OBD2 cars are more challenging than an OBD1 or non OBD car just the way of the world i guess. And as much as i hate somtimes how they decide to build newer cars, i still cant help but notice the difference when you get into a car thats only 10 years old instead of 20 or 30...thats kinda why im not a big fan of older cars anymore, minus clasics of course, love almost everything pre 70s. On that note i had an 02 maxima, that car was amazing...
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Post by justypro on Jan 30, 2010 13:33:59 GMT -5
sorry you had such a hard time, mine hasnt been that kind of trouble yet, but then again i bought it with the intention of tearing the whole thing down at some point anyway. To me thats part of the hobby. And no matter how much you hate it, it will still be a muscle car that you can shape into somthing you want and like fairly easily due to a large after market. Where as the justy is the opposite, what you see is what you get most of what you have to fix you have to hunt for in junk yards or on the internet and its never going to be fast even with a turbo and a built motor. but its still a neat little car!
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