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Post by sp0ngebob on Jan 11, 2015 19:42:24 GMT -5
i was about the make the same point as matt…if its broken its not going to get worse frankly. might aid you in losing some fear when "testing" things.
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Post by jaredv on Jan 11, 2015 20:01:05 GMT -5
spongebob im not close to a harbour frieght but there is one near my parents back in portland i could pick one up maybe if i still need it whenever i make it back. as for the 1st and 3rd thing matt. i'll check tomorrow. i'll try all of them while i'm at it. i know 1,2,and r don't work
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Post by madmatt on Jan 11, 2015 20:28:58 GMT -5
reason for the 1st 3rd thing is to see if it changes speed. if it does, it's not the clutch, and you can rule that out. problem being... if it does... its either the hubs (which you said you were pretty sure where fine) or um ah, how do i say this nicely. expensive. as in down stream of the gear box. that means likely differential ring gear or something. but again, I've never heard of real transmission problems. unless you like to do 7000 rpm clutch drops with 195 series tires
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Post by gjutzy on Jan 12, 2015 17:22:54 GMT -5
also are you local to harbor freight? they sell an inspection camera that you could shove down the shift fork hole or down the starter hole and look down in the bell housing. i paid 70 for mine but i got the cheaper one. and it wont fit down a spark plug hole which is kind of disappointing. but it would work for this. you cna return it for a 15% restocking fee. i get the feeling lots of people try to "rent" them from harbor freight. You might also try Autozone. They do have a tool borrow policy. You may have to put a little $$ down, but they give it all back when you return with the tool. Check to see if they might have an inspection camera you could borrow.
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Post by jaredv on Jan 21, 2015 19:22:52 GMT -5
hey guys, sorry for being mia i've been really busy with work. but i just went out and took another sound clip of me shifting around and you can clearly hear a difference between 1,3,4, and 5. let me know what your thinking. i'm also wondering if maybe it's the drivetrain. only because i heard a commercial on the radio the other day about a how they can go bad and disable your vehicle and there's a place that specializes in that relatively local to me. is that a possible cause? clyp.it/ebjd2wir
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Post by madmatt on Jan 22, 2015 0:47:33 GMT -5
Beating dead horse...
How did you confirm the hubs were fine?
This is for sure downstream of the clutch, and sounds unlike any gear issues.
The fact the speedo moves means the gearbox is working, and I believe the diff is spinning, as I think it's driven off the diff ring...
Please tell how you checked the hubs...
Matt
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Post by madmatt on Jan 22, 2015 0:57:51 GMT -5
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Post by jaredv on Jan 22, 2015 13:45:44 GMT -5
i haven't personally checked it, but when i had someone come over to check it out a while back he said it wasn't moving. i'm considering going out and buying some of those drive up ramp things because i won't have access to a jack until i make it home in february and get mine. i'll take the tire off once i pick them up and check things out
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Post by madmatt on Jan 22, 2015 15:02:02 GMT -5
Checked it? Not Checked "them"?
You need to check both. One will go, and the differential will allow the good one to stay stationary while the bad side spins.
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Post by madmatt on Jan 22, 2015 15:05:03 GMT -5
And if you are going out to buy stuff... you'll need axle stands and a jack, as you need to pull the wheel, those drive up ramps are for exhaust and changing oil... I got rid of mine years ago, they just take up room.
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Post by gearheadeh on Jan 24, 2015 12:30:43 GMT -5
My 2 cents worth, .. .. .. You will need to take the trans out away from the engine and replace the clutch disc. I believe that the center of the clutch disc is separated from the friction part of the disc. So with luck all you might need for parts is a new disc.
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Post by madmatt on Jan 24, 2015 13:09:18 GMT -5
Gearhedeh,
after possibly ruling out the hubs... that was my thought.
but then his second sound clip shows it changes speed with gear changes. and the speedo moves. this suggests the gear box is functional. so that rules out clutch probelms as the sound would remain constant no matter the gear selected.
it really sounds like splines grinding. although in a pm, he recently told me neither nut is spinning (he's now checked both)
ever heard a cv let go? whatca think?
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Post by indkid87 on Jan 24, 2015 15:08:19 GMT -5
That definitely sounds like splines slipping. What about the tranny side of the axle? Or maybe the jack shaft? I vaguely remember another member saying he stripped out the stubs coming out of the tranny.
I think you'll find your answers if you remove the axles.
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Post by jaredv on Jan 24, 2015 15:20:08 GMT -5
i am really hoping this doesn't turn out to be something i can't handle with some sockets, wrenches, and a jack. i don't have the know how or the ability to get into the tranny. I live in an apartment and with my car not moving, i will have to talk a friend into towing me and letting me borrow his driveway.
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Post by madmatt on Jan 24, 2015 16:17:59 GMT -5
hmmm. never heard of the stubs or the jack shaft splines going bad... but that would certainly fit what we're hearing wouldn't it!
maybe if an axle was replaced in the past, and the split pin not installed? at full droop you can't easily pull the joint off the stub... so it would likely stay on, working back and forth making a mess.
jack shaft is a really short stub isn't it? (i dont have one yet... ) thay might make sense, same thing, no pin, movement = wear.
would suck for him if it was the stubs on the tranny... given the resources he currently has.
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Post by madmatt on Jan 24, 2015 16:41:34 GMT -5
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Post by jaredv on Jan 24, 2015 16:49:39 GMT -5
i've got my fingers crossed that its the easiest fix it can be. at this point i won't have any tools until next weekend at the earliest. i may be heading home to watch the superbowl at my parents house. they look for any excuse to have a party which means free drinks and food. can't be mad about that. let me know if there are any other tests i can do to pinpoint the issue.
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Post by madmatt on Jan 24, 2015 16:59:15 GMT -5
yep... okay next one. we can isolate the side. lets hope its the right, as that has the jack shaft! do you have just an ordinary tire changing scissor jack? if so, car in gear, 1st or 2nd. then jack one side lets start on the right. once rhe wheel is in the air, just a bit to keep it semi safe. see if you can turn the wheel. if you can, you've found your side. now you need a friend. have somebody watch to see what all is turning. is the half shaft? the shaft between the wheel and the jack shaft? if yes, and the jack shaft is not. you're in luck. if the jack shaft is turning, you're back at the transmission. it's possible its the joint itself so look to see if the big end at the transmission is turning. if not you're in luck. if it is... that means its a transmission out job... if that side won't turn jack the other... repeat.
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Post by jaredv on Jan 24, 2015 17:16:46 GMT -5
scissor style is the only kind i'll keep. i will look into this later today hopefully. fortunately it is the weekend and the apartment staff isn't at work to say i can't do any work here. because my car is parked right in front of the managers window
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Post by indkid87 on Jan 24, 2015 20:56:54 GMT -5
It could be the front diff too, I could see that making a similar noise.
In any case, Matt's right. Try to figure out what side is faulty. If it is the diff, both sides will probably turn.
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