SeattleJusty
No, a boxer will not fit in a Justy.
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Post by SeattleJusty on May 31, 2009 16:31:36 GMT -5
Three small turbos on a Justy.....? I will believe it when I see a video clip of the car running.
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Post by longbeachjusty on May 31, 2009 17:34:37 GMT -5
that is a neat little turbo tho
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Post by =Justyless= on May 31, 2009 23:13:31 GMT -5
lol well if there is a will there is a way! I need to learn how to weld!
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Post by =Justyless= on May 31, 2009 23:26:32 GMT -5
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Post by =Justyless= on Jun 1, 2009 13:26:13 GMT -5
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Post by =Justyless= on Jun 1, 2009 13:30:33 GMT -5
The turbo is far too small, and to install 3 would be a nightmare. Not to mention that they would all need oil, so you would be dropping your oil pressure, and taxing your oil system. Jeremy what about water cooling?
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SeattleJusty
No, a boxer will not fit in a Justy.
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Post by SeattleJusty on Jun 1, 2009 19:21:34 GMT -5
The turbo is far too small, and to install 3 would be a nightmare. Not to mention that they would all need oil, so you would be dropping your oil pressure, and taxing your oil system. Jeremy what about water cooling? I don't think you get it. The Justy has a 2.9 quart sump. Meditate on that for a few minutes. Next up: Justys have weak oil pumps and as the pump wears and your engine's bearings wear, your oil pressure drops<----this is on a stock Justy that isn't also trying to feed its illegitimateturbochild. Throw an oil parasite like a turbo in the mix and I don't that engine stands a chance without major oiling upgrades. Why is it that people will spend $$$ fabricating manifolds for the turbo, cut BorisYeltsin'sliversizedholes in the bumpers to fit gaudy intercoolers, spend more $$$ on those ludicrous blowoff valves that PSSH PSSH PSSH every time they shift or liftoff, but we never see someone fab up a 4-quart sump or better yet, spend some $$$ on a dry sump system...?
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Post by jeremydde on Jun 1, 2009 20:05:37 GMT -5
The turbo is far too small, and to install 3 would be a nightmare. Not to mention that they would all need oil, so you would be dropping your oil pressure, and taxing your oil system. Jeremy what about water cooling? All turbos need oil. Some turbos have watercooled center sections, too, but they also require oil. Jeremy
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Post by jeremydde on Jun 1, 2009 20:13:54 GMT -5
I don't think you get it. The Justy has a 2.9 quart sump. Meditate on that for a few minutes. Next up: Justys have weak oil pumps and as the pump wears and your engine's bearings wear, your oil pressure drops<----this is on a stock Justy that isn't also trying to feed its illegitimateturbochild. Throw an oil parasite like a turbo in the mix and I don't that engine stands a chance without major oiling upgrades. Why is it that people will spend $$$ fabricating manifolds for the turbo, cut BorisYeltsin'sliversizedholes in the bumpers to fit gaudy intercoolers, spend more $$$ on those ludicrous blowoff valves that PSSH PSSH PSSH every time they shift or liftoff, but we never see someone fab up a 4-quart sump or better yet, spend some $$$ on a dry sump system...? I looked at my engine closely to try to figure out if there was an easy way to fit a larger pan on with my turbo, but it's not possible. A second option is an oil accumulator, which aren't too expensive, which I'm looking into. A dry sump system would cost way more than any justy is worth, on the order of $1500 minimum last time I looked into one. Also, there would be a considerable amount of fabrication to install one. Turbo's aren't that oil hungry. I have a 1/16th inch restrictor installed in mine. I doubt I dropped my oil pressure by more than 2psi if that. If anything the turbo and oil line have added about another 100ml of "volume" to the system. Running three turbos, will just burn the oil up, as well as take away more oil pressure. Jeremy
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SeattleJusty
No, a boxer will not fit in a Justy.
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Post by SeattleJusty on Jun 1, 2009 22:58:27 GMT -5
A dry sump system would cost way more than any justy is worth, on the order of $1500 minimum last time I looked into one. Also, there would be a considerable amount of fabrication to install one. Jeremy Did all the "I'mgonnaputanEJ25turboinmyJusty" people read this?
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Post by =Justyless= on Jun 2, 2009 0:55:43 GMT -5
lol seattle where is your sense of creativity? I emailed a guy about the dry sump system, i've been thinking about doing something like that. Yeah it might be pricey but hey if you wanna be the first one to do something you gotta make some sacrifices!
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Post by Raw Justyce! on Jun 2, 2009 17:34:12 GMT -5
what about water cooling? I don't think you get it. The Justy has a 2.9 quart sump. Meditate on that for a few minutes. Next up: Justys have weak oil pumps and as the pump wears and your engine's bearings wear, your oil pressure drops<----this is on a stock Justy that isn't also trying to feed its illegitimateturbochild. Throw an oil parasite like a turbo in the mix and I don't that engine stands a chance without major oiling upgrades. Why is it that people will spend $$$ fabricating manifolds for the turbo, cut BorisYeltsin'sliversizedholes in the bumpers to fit gaudy intercoolers, spend more $$$ on those ludicrous blowoff valves that PSSH PSSH PSSH every time they shift or liftoff, but we never see someone fab up a 4-quart sump or better yet, spend some $$$ on a dry sump system...? You don't see those things because of the most important factors when considering any mods for a car: 1. Cool Points 2. Girls
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Post by =Justyless= on Jun 2, 2009 17:38:52 GMT -5
You don't see those things because of the most important factors when considering any mods for a car: 1. Cool Points 2. Girls haha those are only a bonus, i just wanna make something fast yet unique
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SeattleJusty
No, a boxer will not fit in a Justy.
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Post by SeattleJusty on Jun 2, 2009 20:37:55 GMT -5
I don't think you get it. The Justy has a 2.9 quart sump. Meditate on that for a few minutes. Next up: Justys have weak oil pumps and as the pump wears and your engine's bearings wear, your oil pressure drops<----this is on a stock Justy that isn't also trying to feed its illegitimateturbochild. Throw an oil parasite like a turbo in the mix and I don't that engine stands a chance without major oiling upgrades. Why is it that people will spend $$$ fabricating manifolds for the turbo, cut BorisYeltsin'sliversizedholes in the bumpers to fit gaudy intercoolers, spend more $$$ on those ludicrous blowoff valves that PSSH PSSH PSSH every time they shift or liftoff, but we never see someone fab up a 4-quart sump or better yet, spend some $$$ on a dry sump system...? You don't see those things because of the most important factors when considering any mods for a car: 1. Cool Points 2. Girls You've got a point. Solace resides in this however; the girls that find those things attractive haven't yet figured out how to get off and the girls that have wouldn't be attracted to such a car or any cretin driving one.
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SeattleJusty
No, a boxer will not fit in a Justy.
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Post by SeattleJusty on Jun 2, 2009 20:54:37 GMT -5
Why is it that people will spend $$$ fabricating manifolds for the turbo, cut BorisYeltsin'sliversizedholes in the bumpers to fit gaudy intercoolers, spend more $$$ on those ludicrous blowoff valves that PSSH PSSH PSSH every time they shift or liftoff, ? Because they're into speed, not pedantry stacks "It is also true that one can write nothing readable unless one constantly struggles to efface one's own personality. Good prose is like a windowpane. "but we never see someone fab up a 4-quart sump or better yet, spend some $$$ on a dry sump system...? Because we've never run the sump dry. I might at high rpm with a bigger pump. Gravity must 'keep up' with pump flow. stacks Me thinks my lone detractor underappreciates the value of increased oil capacity. I looked at my engine closely to try to figure out if there was an easy way to fit a larger pan on with my turbo, but it's not possible. Jeremy It is possible------> lol seattle where is your sense of creativity?! <------ I'm working on it
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SeattleJusty
No, a boxer will not fit in a Justy.
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Post by SeattleJusty on Jun 2, 2009 22:02:39 GMT -5
Just pointing out that sump volume hasn't proven a weak point. stacks Oh I've proven it. You must not have taken right handers as hard as I have.
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Post by =Justyless= on Jun 2, 2009 23:30:21 GMT -5
O.K., well i would really like to do some kind of dry sump setup because if this car ever gets fast enough i would prefer to set it up for track. I've looked into this kind of but im curious about what you do with the internal pump if you were able to set up the dry sump system? Would you remove it all together?
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Post by =Justyless= on Jun 2, 2009 23:47:53 GMT -5
So this is the basic idea, Once the oil is returning back to the engine does it enter from the valve cover?
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Post by ultima on Jun 3, 2009 7:59:38 GMT -5
Here's a couple of pics of an installation on a volvo engine. They have placed the inlet exactly where the normal oil pump is located, so you would probably have to do something like that.
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Post by =Justyless= on Jun 3, 2009 14:24:49 GMT -5
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