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Post by unicornteste on Aug 15, 2014 7:53:10 GMT -5
Will a Hyundai 1.6l engine or a honda 1.6 vtec from a 2005 EP2 fit in a 1994 J10?
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Post by indkid87 on Aug 15, 2014 9:01:41 GMT -5
Anything will fit with a torch and a welder. Just don't expect it to bolt right in.
The answer to your question is how much effort do you really want to put in it?
-Dave
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Post by southerner on Aug 20, 2014 22:02:22 GMT -5
Apparently not much..
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Post by unicornteste on Aug 31, 2014 8:10:36 GMT -5
Besides obviously the engine I imagine that I will need a new gearbox, transaxle etc. right? Sorry I am a noob and I really don't know about this stuff. Hope I'll learn fast... :/
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Post by indkid87 on Aug 31, 2014 11:33:22 GMT -5
Yep, plus splicing the Hyundai axles with the justy axles, Splicing the wiring harness together. Custom engine mounts. You'll lose your 4wd if you have it. On top of all that, there's really not a lot of room for an extra cylinder in the engine bay.
-Dave
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Post by unicornteste on Aug 31, 2014 15:00:08 GMT -5
Yep, plus splicing the Hyundai axles with the justy axles, Splicing the wiring harness together. Custom engine mounts. You'll lose your 4wd if you have it. On top of all that, there's really not a lot of room for an extra cylinder in the engine bay. -Dave Considering all the work, how much do you think a professional would charge me to do an engine swap to a 16l engine from a Honda EP2?... Cause I don't have the knowledge to do it myself. Also do you think that it will be worth it considering that my justy's engine is still functional?
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Post by madmatt on Aug 31, 2014 15:58:32 GMT -5
[/quote]Considering all the work, how much do you think a professional would charge me to do an engine swap to a 16l engine from a Honda EP2?... Cause I don't have the knowledge to do it myself. Also do you think that it will be worth it considering that my justy's engine is still functional?[/quote]
A lot... more then the honda would cost.
ask yourself why you are doing this...
the justy motor is an okay motor, makes the little car go not bad. there are things you can do to get a bit more power for less then a complete drivetrain swap.
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Post by unicornteste on Aug 31, 2014 16:37:05 GMT -5
Considering all the work, how much do you think a professional would charge me to do an engine swap to a 16l engine from a Honda EP2?... Cause I don't have the knowledge to do it myself. Also do you think that it will be worth it considering that my justy's engine is still functional?[/quote] A lot... more then the honda would cost. ask yourself why you are doing this... the justy motor is an okay motor, makes the little car go not bad. there are things you can do to get a bit more power for less then a complete drivetrain swap. [/quote] What can I do to get more power from the motor?
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Post by madmatt on Aug 31, 2014 23:48:39 GMT -5
Lots... It can (and has) been turbo'd with reasonable success... look around here for results. It responds well to compression increases by simply decking the head... There is a cam available through Delta Cams in Seattle (or Tacoma, or wherever they are) Never mind, I forgot you had the J10... Basically any engine building tricks that make an eco-grocery getter to more zip, bear in mind this usually results in worse emissions and worse mileage... A 1.2 swap would be much easier.. But you are driving a 4wd grocery getter, so don't expect 4 wheel tire shredding torque... it ain't an sti and never will be. How much are you willing to spend?
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Post by unicornteste on Aug 31, 2014 23:57:15 GMT -5
Considering my car is worth 500 euros I guess my budget is from 500 - 600 euros. Also my car is the 1.0l carburated FWD version.
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Post by madmatt on Sept 1, 2014 0:15:43 GMT -5
I will nearly guarantee there is no way you will find anyone to swap for anywhere near that sort of money... I don't think you could do the swap in materials alone for that.
500 euros is do it yourself money for anything, and even then you are on a shoe string budget to do much at all.
Make sure it's tuned up... you might be surprised what that will do.
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Post by unicornteste on Sept 1, 2014 6:00:13 GMT -5
What tuning can I do? Sorry for all the questions lol but in this forum there aren't a lot of finished projects that i can rely on and those that are finished a majority of them don't have pictures.
Will on the other hand a justy 1.2l be an easy swap with less money? If not what can I do to tune my 1.0l?
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Post by madmatt on Sept 1, 2014 7:54:23 GMT -5
there aren't a lot of finished projects that i can rely on and those that are finished a majority of them don't have pictures. ain't that the truth... and hence our skepticism. most mod projects go unfinished because problems arise when folks think they can out engineer Subaru in their garage. Will on the other hand a justy 1.2l be an easy swap with less money? If not what can I do to tune my 1.0l? The swap would be simple physically. As in it would bolt up, and make more power. however I'm unfamiliar with the carburation/ ignition the J10, so not sure what that will entail. if you are not competent in doing an engine build, find someone who is and become friends... And then you can think about moding. too many variables to cover in a few posts here. read up on turbo charging, and building NA performance motors, and how power is made, and not on baller flatbrim websites... get a good old book like "how to modify datsun 510 engines" and read it cover to cover...
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Post by indkid87 on Sept 1, 2014 8:19:45 GMT -5
What do you really want to get out of the car and what will you be using it for?
More power is nice, but it gets boring pretty quick and you just want more and more.
A better option is to start by upgrading the suspension/handling. Cornering fast is way more fun than going fast in the straights, especially in a light weight car like the justy.
-Dave
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Post by unicornteste on Sept 1, 2014 10:24:28 GMT -5
Thank you madmatt and indkid for your response. I will try and follow your advice madmatt... gonna try and befriend a mechanic or someone professional. I have been driving the justy daily and I just had the idea of having more power as it is a light car and also make it the best it can be. This car was my dad's so I spent my childhood in this car and right now it's not in a good shape. So what can I do to improve handling?
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Post by indkid87 on Sept 1, 2014 11:33:37 GMT -5
Oh, it's also worth mentioning that if you want to learn some mechanical skills yourself, the justy is a fantastic car to learn on. It's just so simple and straight forward, it doesn't take much to understand how it works.
As far as upgrading the handling, the first step is a good set of wheels and tires. They'll make the biggest difference off the bat and anything else you do is pointless without them. Also make sure all your bushings are in good shape Next step is swaybars, make sure you have them front and rear. I'm not sure what was on the j10. After that, everything is custom, but you can look at stiffer springs or coilovers. Although at that point your going to be exceeding your budget.
-Dave
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Post by unicornteste on Sept 1, 2014 12:32:35 GMT -5
Ok so right now I have 145/70R12 tires which I think are the stock size. Do you recommend any other size? What is the maximum width tire that I can fit?
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Post by indkid87 on Sept 1, 2014 13:05:27 GMT -5
My favorite tire so far is the sumitomo htr 200 in 175/50r13, but that's mostly due to a lack of better options in the states. It was a blast to drive on those tires, but sadly they are no longer available over here.
I went to a set of 14" bmw bottlecaps just so I have more tire options. Those have 195/60r14's on them now, but they rub in the back. I plan to go to 185/55r14, hopefully those will clear.
-Dave
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Post by unicornteste on Sept 1, 2014 14:06:03 GMT -5
So you think if I go with 185/55r14 I won't have any clearance issues right and potential roll overs ? Also can a larger tire affect speed or acceleration? I love how this thread isn't about engines anymore... haha still thank you for your responses. Once I get some money and buy this stuff i'll put some pictures of the car.
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Post by madmatt on Sept 1, 2014 14:30:14 GMT -5
when were your struts last changed...
if never, theres a handling boost. and i think they are still actually available in Europe!
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