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Post by spiked3cylinder on Feb 9, 2010 12:57:26 GMT -5
Hey fellas,
Alright, this problem seems to have been getting slightly more apparent. I've always known that my radio must have something up with either it's ground hook up or the actually power wire.
When in operating mode, with the radio on, it sometimes quckly goes out and this is aggravated by blinkers -especially the left one, brake lights, and wipers. The radio nearly always flashes back into operation immediately following the useage of these electrical features.
Any thoughts on where I may begin checking?? I'm planning on replacing the current tape deck with an aftermarket cd/mp3 player and thought perhaps the installer may solve this but.....
do you think it is beyond the wiring harness??
Prior thanks to your answers!! -Adam
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Post by spiked3cylinder on Feb 16, 2010 14:46:09 GMT -5
Alright...a bit of an update. I really hope my electrical system isn't eating itself :/
So, now my radio has zero power; it never even lights up. I have a right low beam headlight that works rarely....it popped on after monkeying a bit with the wires leading up to it. And my front blinker is not working either, or at least hasn't worked in the past 24 hours...
thoughts anyone?? PLEASE? thanks, Adam
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Post by RedRooJusty on Feb 16, 2010 16:24:52 GMT -5
Fuse #5 supplies power to the right low beam, and all the dash illumination (radio illumination included). You have more than one issue though.
The radio is supposed to get "unswitched" main power from the wht/blu wire (fuse #3) on it's harness, and switched "on" power from the red/blu wire (fuse #10). Radio ground should be black, and can be grounded to any metal on the chassis.
The turn signal combination switch gets "unswitched" power from fuse#3 as well (it uses this power to allow "parking" lights to illuminate with the key out, and this powers the brake lights).
OK my guess: Fuse #3 has a poor connection in the fuse panel. For the front right headlight check fuse #5, then the connections to the headlight relay, then the headlamp itself.
*note* when you pull the fuses look for corrosion, if corroded change the fuse completely, and put a touch of petroleum jelly or grease on the blades of the new fuse(s) to seal the new fuse from oxidizing (no worry's, it will make connection).
--ok one schematic has the right headlight on fuse#5, and another has it on fuse#6? ? Oh well can't hurt to check them both.
-let me know if any of this works -RRJ
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Post by spiked3cylinder on Feb 16, 2010 17:53:59 GMT -5
Thank you Sir!!!
I'll check them ASAP, perhaps this afternoon and followup with what I find.
-Adam
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Post by spiked3cylinder on Feb 17, 2010 1:02:42 GMT -5
RedRooJusty, Here's a bit of an update. Checked fuses...they're fine, they all look pretty new actually, the metal contacts within the fuse holder as well as the fuses themselves look pretty good. I checked the front headlight as well. The bulb is not blown (on either filament). But after a closer look, I did discover the contacts on the headlight (bulb) and wire plug were a bit corroded with blue residue, sort of like around a corroded battery only blue....never seen this before I did not have time to remove the fuse panel and look on the other side. Is this what you originally indicated where I should look, inside the fuse panel? Is it possible a wire is loose back there? thanks again for your help, Adam
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Post by RedRooJusty on Feb 17, 2010 21:52:10 GMT -5
Ahh crud, well behind the fuse panel is the next logical place to look. It is odd that your brake lights work fine? Or do they go out when you turn on multiple loads like the turn signal + brake + parking lights (from "top" of combination switch)? Have you tried disconnecting the old radio? I am trying to establish what part of the (fuse#3) circuit it still working, to help narrow the search.
That bluish/green crud at the headlight receptacle is copper corrosion. You may have to replace the socket.
-RRJ
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Post by spiked3cylinder on Feb 18, 2010 2:19:10 GMT -5
Uh oh, crud's never a good thing. Ok...I will check behind the fuse panel. I peaked under there again, behind the panel and I didn't see any dangling wires, not plugged in. But this may not be a good enough indicator? I appears that the panel is removed from behind? Two screws and the four visable snaps?
Brake lights are fine indeed, I doubled checked that tonight. I haven't tried to disconnect the radio yet, although I probably should have started there, as this was my first clue to a problem.
I'll give a bit more details to see if it helps.. So, the radio has snapped in and out whenever since I've purchased Justy in Oct. It usually seemed to be instigated by power usage. -Then about a month ago the left, front blinker quite working sort of on and off for about a half of a day, then back to normal. -Tuesday a co-worker pointed out my left headlight was out. I popped the hood and moved some wires around and it turned on! Just for about 10 mins though. Also, it was then that the blinker quit working... -Oh, one other hint. The radio works again, it awakened upon checking the fuses last night?
Weird eh? thanks for your troubleshooting help, Adam
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Post by RedRooJusty on Feb 18, 2010 10:59:09 GMT -5
Right on, a couple last things to check. Even thought the fuse panel looked alright, there is one of two things going on here: 1. The fuse (#3) is only making good contact on one side of the fuse (as the other side connector would be opened up a bit, making weak contact).
2. In the fuse panel, fuse #3 socket has a connector that has unlocked from the panel allowing it it get pushed up into the panel instead of making good contact with the fuse.
If you have a blown fuse kicking around, cut it in half, use a half to test the fuse socket connections looking for one of the two scenarios I mentioned above one connection at a time. Both sides of the fuse connector should hold the "half" firm when plugged into either connector.
-let me know what you find, if it is a loose connection to the fuse I can give a couple of pictures on how to repair the fuse socket without removing the panel. -RRJ
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Post by spiked3cylinder on Feb 19, 2010 11:33:03 GMT -5
Alright! The weekend is nearly here and I'll have more time to scratch around with this. I'll check the connections in the panel.
I would definitely be interested in your pictures to increase the connective pressure within the contacts of the fuse panel. What sort of device is to be used??
Another question...can a fuse be bad if it looks ok??
many thanks, Adam
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Post by spiked3cylinder on Feb 22, 2010 16:27:04 GMT -5
Alright, here's another update....
The headlights...OH gosh!! On Friday night, it just so happened that the other low beam "went out" and a high-beam too. So, being frightful of the remaining ONE highbeam going out, I parked it. Upon a closer examination I did notice a bit of the filament on each of the bulbs, looking a bit chewed up - but still connected.
After a thorough cleaning of the outlet plugs, I decided to replace them both...IT WORKED!
My radio continues to work in and out AND my front, left blinker decided to begin working again - on and off. They work together though...so I'm not sure if their problems are connected.
It seems as though they have their own issues.
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Post by spiked3cylinder on Mar 2, 2010 14:08:13 GMT -5
So, I recently put a nice, new pioneer in Justy. This took care of the radio problems and my front, right blinker has been healthier lately, as he has been hard at work, completing his duty thanks for all of your help, Adam
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