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Post by malamute on Jul 31, 2007 22:18:13 GMT -5
I am getting a quote on some custom made steel rims so everybody on the list can run wide tires. You could probably put the stock looking hubcaps on to complete the stealth look. I sized the custom steel wheels to match my existing alloys. The rim section is made from a spun formed steel to increase strength and reduce weight. They should be near stock in weight about 11 to 12 lbs a piece. Currently I run Yokohama A008 that measure 185/60/13. It is nearly impossible to get the car to break loose in a turn. If there is more interest, I could spec out another size offset to accommodate even larger tires.
For those who sweat the details they are as follows: 13 by 5.5 inches, 1.25 (38mm) offset, lug centric, 60 degree taper lug seating angle.
I'm with SeattleJusty's opinion on Justy wheels. Since you can't find the GL stock 165/65/13's Bridgestone R92's anymore, I would like to come up with a solution that will work for a majority of the people on this list.
How many people would be interested in these rims? Would you like them in Silver or Black? These wheels are usually made for midget sprint cars, so they can handle what we can dish out.
I would like to start building relationships with vendors for stuff that Justy owner's need. My next project is oil pump rebuilding. Who would be willing to buy a rebuilt bronze sleeved oil pump?
I also have to get pistons, camshafts, and bearing suppliers sourced out. And engine gasket sets.
Matthew
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Post by blackjusty on Jul 31, 2007 23:34:31 GMT -5
How well do the rebuilt bronze oil pumps hold up. How many miles have you put on one so far?
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Post by milfordcubicle on Aug 1, 2007 6:49:38 GMT -5
Can't you find an equivalent tyre to fit? 165-65-13 is a fairly common size here.
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Post by malamute on Aug 1, 2007 8:06:29 GMT -5
The other reason for changing wheel size is that I can find tires for that size. Low profile 13's are very difficult to find here in Michigan. And I can't find the stock size anywhere. I can't even get them from TireRack. And if I have the problem...more than one of us will have the same problem. UPDATE: I checked again at lunch and they have them now. I should have checked before posting... They didn't have them a couple of months before when I was looking. Matthew
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Post by SeattleJusty on Aug 1, 2007 9:24:32 GMT -5
Oh jeez, you guys, why do you have to drop a juicy thread right when I'm at work? I have so much great and exciting information about this but I cannot devote the time to divulge for at least another 8 hours. I have compiled a nice spreadsheet with brands, sizes, prices, diameters and even weights(!) for a bevvy of suitable 13" tires specifically for the Justy. Y'know...I did publish that spreadsheet on gmail/google.... OK I think as long as you have a gmail account you can view this from the web. spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=ptoJsY7Lk6yFzsfbesDrXCQ&hl=en_US&pli=1 There are plenty of good options in a 13" tire available from the Tirerack and they can ship them to you anywhere. The prices are so competitive that I had to do a lot of searching locally before finding vendors that could beat the deal. (BTW the deal wasn't beaten by price but rather by free repair, rotation and warranty) Expect to hear from me again later today and I will post more exciting stuff about this.
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Post by baron on Aug 1, 2007 12:00:41 GMT -5
i recommend you use a 25mm offset rather than 38mm. if you are getting a group buy why not get half the number in 25mm and the other half in 15mm (for the rear wheels). this will look very smart and reduce the risk of inner arch rubbing as well as fitting the rear arches how they should have done in the first place! tyres: i use Michelin Energy 165/65 13's and they hold the road very well and without all the squeal i got from Yokohamas. i got 10,000 miles out of the last set, the guy in the shop said i should be getting around 30k (go justy go!) the michelins are great in wet weather too. i used to slide about on the highways when it rained really hard and in 4x4. i would have to drop below 50mph to get safe. no probs with the new tyres. on a more serious note, i highly advise you dont skimp on the most important part of your car - the part that holds you to the road. cheap tyres are fine as a spare, but you really should put your money on good rubber. it could save your life. Dan
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Post by milfordcubicle on Aug 1, 2007 12:58:53 GMT -5
I have a combination of one Michelin Energy, probably as old as the car, and two different types of 'bargain' shitey Kwik Fit tyres. Handles quite well considering, though it's pretty poor when the roads are greasy. Maybe I should invest in some decent rubber...
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Post by SeattleJusty on Aug 1, 2007 19:05:40 GMT -5
OK, so I tried and tried but my big super spreadsheet just will not display well enough to read with the capture software I have. To truly benefit from it you must see it on your desktop as a real spread sheet but I have a substitute for you: spreadsheet Jr! And for those who already have a gmail/google account here is the link to the really good one: spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=ptoJsY7Lk6yFzsfbesDrXCQ&hl=en_USYes, it's true the Tirerack still has Bridgestone Potenza RE92 165/65R13s for $50 each but who wants those!? By stepping up to a 175/70R13 you fill up the wheel well and the width of your rim nicely (I'm not guessing on this, I put 'em on a Justy) and at 70MPH they lower your revs almost 300RPM which I think is a good thing! There are many options and none of them are right or wrong. Do what you feel is best for your car and for what you are trying to do. Remember, every gain is a trade off. Anyone who wants that spreadsheet with all the tire pricing & other info, P.M. me and I can e-mail it to you.
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Post by malamute on Aug 1, 2007 21:45:25 GMT -5
I have been running mine for about 5 years and I have yet to rub on the fenders. Mind you I can barely get my fingers between the tire and the strut. I don't think you could put the same 185/60/13's on a 25mm offset wheel.
I might try to get my hands on a used 195/60/13 and see if it would fit the front, but after being able to take most off-ramps at 80 mph, I should consider upgrading something other than tires. Like brakes...or getting my darn alternator rebuilt.
I'm looking into using a flex-a-lite radiator as a replacement to the stock unit...and I know of an alternate fuel injection system that can replace the stock EFI system. Stuff is out there. It's just not made for us. We have to learn how to seize what's out there.
Matthew
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Post by SeattleJusty on Aug 1, 2007 22:44:04 GMT -5
I have been running mine for about 5 years and I have yet to rub on the fenders. Mind you I can barely get my fingers between the tire and the strut. I don't think you could put the same 185/60/13's on a 25mm offset wheel. Do you think the wheel would be pushed out too far with a 25mm offset? Are you afraid it would rub tyre on the outer wheel arch or actually poke out the side altogether?
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Post by malamute on Aug 2, 2007 7:49:12 GMT -5
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Do you think the wheel would be pushed out too far with a 25mm offset? Are you afraid it would rub tyre on the outer wheel arch or actually poke out the side altogether?[/quote]
Since offset is the distance from the wheel centerline to the back face of the bolt flange, decreasing the offset pushes the rim out toward the fender flares. Bad things would happen I think. I'll take a picture of my setup so you have an idea what it looks like.
Matthew Who is wondering why a person from Seattle uses the spelling tyre.
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Post by SeattleJusty on Aug 2, 2007 8:33:41 GMT -5
"Matthew Who is wondering why a person from Seattle uses the spelling tyre."
At 18 I bought my first of three Triumphs, I now have a Pre-facelift MK1 Capri and I read Practical Performance Car and Practical Classics magazines from UK. Between the aforementioned and my ongoing dialogue and daily chat with people across the big pond, I have developed a tongue of duality. Either way, on this forum I'm always 50% spot on or 50% off to half of the readers so I cater more to myself than anyone else. Trust me, after you've pored over enough shop guides with language like anti-clockwise, gudgeon, propshaft and wing, something as simple as switching the -I- and -Y- becomes first nature.
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Post by baron on Aug 2, 2007 16:00:44 GMT -5
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Post by malamute on Aug 2, 2007 20:25:49 GMT -5
"Matthew Who is wondering why a person from Seattle uses the spelling tyre." At 18 I bought my first of three Triumphs, I now have a Pre-facelift MK1 Capri and I read Practical Performance Car and Practical Classics magazines from UK. Between the aforementioned and my ongoing dialogue and daily chat with people across the big pond, I have developed a tongue of duality. Either way, on this forum I'm always 50% spot on or 50% off to half of the readers so I cater more to myself than anyone else. Trust me, after you've pored over enough shop guides with language like anti-clockwise, gudgeon, propshaft and wing, something as simple as switching the -I- and -Y- becomes first nature. I also speak British, mostly because I own a Land Rover and my favorite magazines are Land Rover World, Racecar Engineering and Rally. I don't have a set of Wentworth wrenches, but I get the lingo. I like Boddington's too. I have driven in my bosses GT6. I'll take the Justy any day. Matthew
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Post by gearheadeh on Aug 2, 2007 20:42:26 GMT -5
Lucas Electrical ......The prince of darkness, say no more nudge nudge, wink wink!.
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Post by SUBIEJIM on Aug 2, 2007 21:40:43 GMT -5
Lucas Electrical ......The prince of darkness, say no more nudge nudge, wink wink!. gearheadeh, Man..It's been a while since I've heard the "Prince of Darkness" line..It's a real gem that always makes me laugh because it is so true!! I did a valve job on my buddy's 72 MG Midget back in the early 90s and that car had constant electrical problems. I really liked that car aside from the Lucas Electrical system and the cumbersome SU carbs It really was a blast to drive! I was always thankful that car didn't catch fire and burn to the ground. As a 15 year old Lot Boy at a Fiat-Lancia dealership I watched a brand new 78 Fiat X-19 sizzle and burst into flames as the delivery driver turned the key to start the engine and back it off the transport truck. Luckily, it was on the lower rack and we pushed it off the truck before it burned 2 other cars. Up to that point, that was the coolest "Car Thing" I had ever seen. I don't know if Fiat used Lucas Electrical systems back then But, I can tell ya....When I had to move one of those around the dealership I looked like James Dean in the racing to the cliff sceen..Ready to bail out at a seconds notice Man, I'm getting old Jim
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Post by SeattleJusty on Aug 2, 2007 22:36:02 GMT -5
"Matthew Who is wondering why a person from Seattle uses the spelling tyre." At 18 I bought my first of three Triumphs, I now have a Pre-facelift MK1 Capri and I read Practical Performance Car and Practical Classics magazines from UK. Between the aforementioned and my ongoing dialogue and daily chat with people across the big pond, I have developed a tongue of duality. Either way, on this forum I'm always 50% spot on or 50% off to half of the readers so I cater more to myself than anyone else. Trust me, after you've pored over enough shop guides with language like anti-clockwise, gudgeon, propshaft and wing, something as simple as switching the -I- and -Y- becomes first nature. I also speak British, mostly because I own a Land Rover and my favorite magazines are Land Rover World, Racecar Engineering and Rally. I don't have a set of Wentworth wrenches, but I get the lingo. I like Boddington's too. I have driven in my bosses GT6. I'll take the Justy any day. Matthew As a former GT6+ owner, I am mildly offended. I love Justys too. Maybe if I get a raise I can afford some new tyres. Jim, dude, Skinner's Union carbs are great! What do you mean by "cumbersome"? They don't take up hardly any room unless you're talking about all those ill-advised SU-V8 applications. They're easy enough to tune, easy as heck to rebuild and best of all, it's nigh impossible to go with one too large so when setting up an unkown, you can basically slap a 2" SU on it and work down from there. Plus as they say over there, "it looks the business!"
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Post by blackjusty on Aug 3, 2007 0:07:08 GMT -5
Justy owners need: Shocks and struts, springs They are $119 apiece at the dealer for the struts. Parts only
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Post by baron on Aug 3, 2007 21:01:45 GMT -5
British?!! that's not a language! but it is my nationality
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Post by SeattleJusty on Aug 3, 2007 21:51:13 GMT -5
Baron, did you ever answer your phone, I think Dunk had some exciting news for you...well, for all of us. Check my newest thread if you didn't speak "British" with him
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