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Post by micco on Aug 12, 2010 11:38:01 GMT -5
You have an engine that came with 300HP and now makes 700HP? Bro, that's 133% more than stock. Let me repeat, not 33% more, 133% more. As in, more than double the horsepower, double the heat. That's right! And I have driven maybe 15-20 track days with it with no problems. So I really can't see why Justy's lubrication (or engine itself) couldn't handle 150hp or little more...
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SeattleJusty
No, a boxer will not fit in a Justy.
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Post by SeattleJusty on Aug 12, 2010 12:50:20 GMT -5
Well which is it? Have you driven 15 track days or 20. . . . . ?
Hey, you have a party with your 150HP turbo Justy that only holds 2.8L of oil. The rest of us will soldier on with improvements to capacity.
Keep up the good work, Armageddous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by mxnick83 on Aug 14, 2010 6:42:30 GMT -5
Im trying to take a blown motor out of my 4x4 justy and i need to know where to disconnect the drivetrain.
Anything will help. Thanks!!
Nick
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Post by robertuah on Mar 9, 2011 23:37:25 GMT -5
Awesome work. But I do have to ask wouldn't an Accusump setup be easier and achieve the same basic thing?
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Post by todd8603 on Mar 13, 2011 16:48:42 GMT -5
Accucump easier? yes, maybe. but the mad fabricating skills creating an extra litre or more of oil on a low volume system like the 1.2l like what he has built costs a ton less than the $400 to install a user friendly performance system of accusump. I think the local vernacular for accusump would be $pendy.
btw. Read on dustysjustys that synthetic is never a good idea for us. Seems like the good blend for winter would be 10w40 for performance applications but have not read anyone stating sythetic or traditional. While we're talking oil and pans, what do you think? Foaming vs non foaming?
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Post by Armageddous on Mar 14, 2011 21:49:35 GMT -5
...but the mad fabricating skills... Terry
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Post by todd8603 on Mar 15, 2011 7:25:55 GMT -5
...but the mad fabricating skills... Terry Before this goes too far, I used my 15 year olds vocabulary here. "mad fabricating skill"=awesome fabrication work. Wasn't trying to cause but more ;D. You guys are among the best Justy guys around, like the help.
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Post by Armageddous on Mar 15, 2011 22:41:29 GMT -5
I was more referencing the fact my pan, while holding oil to this day, looks atrocious and incorporates novice fabrication background. However it is a nice thing to say ;D I have another pan designed that will make mine useless (or for sale?) Terry
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Post by RedRooJusty on Mar 15, 2011 22:58:50 GMT -5
Terry, I find your projects to be top notch with craftsmanship second to none. I personally have never designed a perfect part on the first shot, you learn and move forward taking what works into your next design. Just a normal progression to me. -Eric
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Post by todd8603 on Mar 16, 2011 7:05:59 GMT -5
I was more referencing the fact my pan, while holding oil to this day, looks atrocious and incorporates novice fabrication background. However it is a nice thing to say ;D I have another pan designed that will make mine useless (or for sale?) Terry I call dibs on this pan when/if it becomes for sale. I believe that the increased volume of oil will reduce "cooking" of oil leading to oil light flicker after a quick sprint on the ice track. The coolant temp is very tolerable but I think that the circulating volume is too low for the oil to get a chance to cool any before reentry on the stock pan. Did you ever do baffles/splash guards mentioned in previous posts? Or it has been fine without it/them?
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Post by Armageddous on Mar 16, 2011 12:17:11 GMT -5
I never added baffles to this pan and haven't had any issues, although I'm not sure I would recognize an issue if there were one. The major issue with the pan is because the Justy's engine sits on a slant and I foolishly built the bottom parallel to the mating surface, it therefore sits on a stupid angle in the car. However this does allow for some pretty good drainage. This added oil has seriously kept engine temperatures down. I think the exposed portion below the bumper valance gets air cooled. Terry
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No, a boxer will not fit in a Justy.
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Post by SeattleJusty on Mar 16, 2011 18:43:35 GMT -5
This added oil has seriously kept engine temperatures down. I think the exposed portion below the bumper valance gets air cooled. Terry That makes really good sense. Alfa Romeo earned a reputation for building its engines with big oil capacity and keeping cool as most of their famed hemis held about 6.3 quarts and usually the sumps were cast aluminum with fins on the outside of its underside.
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Post by Armageddous on Mar 16, 2011 22:19:14 GMT -5
I was skeptical of my 1st gen's ability to keep the engine cool because I used the stock rad (2nd gen is twice the size). I rarely get my temp gauge above half even on a highway run, I guess I could attribute low temperatures to the exhaust acting like a huge heat sink.
Terry
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Post by doctormcgoveran on Mar 23, 2012 0:05:39 GMT -5
Good work all around on the oil pan. More oil is better. Bigger battery is better, bigger radiator is better. My only suggestion would be when you make the baffles run them from front to back and make them out of a hollow tube and weld them so the air can flow through and cool all that nice oil. !!!
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dogoman
A Boxer engine will fit in a Justy, its called a WRX
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Post by dogoman on Mar 23, 2012 0:49:45 GMT -5
has nobody thought about fitting an oil cooler? theres remote filter adapters out there that screw onto your existing filter connection on the block allowing for a remote mounted (as in "damn, thats got to be a better place and easier to get to") filter and you can fit an oil cooler in the line quite easily. Very common on race car setups, and pretty simple to do. Pays to get the fittings crimped onto the hoses but with the justys excessive oil pressure, the cheaper barb and clip fittings should be ok.
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Post by Captain Nemo on Mar 23, 2012 1:28:16 GMT -5
would be interesting to see what difference the added line and cooler would make to the end presure (at the bearing), given the Justy's enormous oil pump.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2012 13:23:53 GMT -5
has nobody thought about fitting an oil cooler? theres remote filter adapters out there that screw onto your existing filter connection on the block allowing for a remote mounted (as in "damn, thats got to be a better place and easier to get to") filter and you can fit an oil cooler in the line quite easily. Very common on race car setups, and pretty simple to do. Pays to get the fittings crimped onto the hoses but with the justys excessive oil pressure, the cheaper barb and clip fittings should be ok. subarujusty.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=engine&action=display&thread=3535
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dogoman
A Boxer engine will fit in a Justy, its called a WRX
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Post by dogoman on Mar 23, 2012 17:51:24 GMT -5
Thanks ferox, i knew i'd seen it on the forum somewhere. The units i'm used to don't have the thermostatic control in them, they are constant flow, not an issue with race cars.
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Post by Armageddous on Mar 23, 2012 20:25:09 GMT -5
Don't live in fear of the giant orange oil pan.
Terry
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