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Post by slomojusty on Jul 24, 2014 1:16:44 GMT -5
I have a chance to pick up a cheap Gen 2('89) parts car. I understand (thanks to ferox and indkid87) that I can swap the Gen 2 axles and brakes into my Gen 1. But I'm wondering if I can use any of the other parts.
The motors are the same as the 89 was still carbed. What about the transmission?
Is there any interior, rear hatch, pop out glass, wind shield, rear bumper, weather stripping compatibility?
I don't really want to store the car for long, so Im going to want to pull parts asap and either donate the rest or sell it to a junk yard.
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Post by Armageddous on Jul 24, 2014 18:47:36 GMT -5
88 carbs are not the same as 89 carbs.
Terry
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Post by madmatt on Jul 24, 2014 19:03:17 GMT -5
Slomo,
Lot's of stuff swaps...
as for running gear, first off nearly everything swaps. You can take a gen 2 outboard knuckle and stick it on a gen 1 shaft. You can stick gen 2 bearings in gen 1 spindles.... (spindles = the cast thingys that have all the stuff mounted on them)
The only issue is what to do about the equal length shafts of the gen 2 vs the unequal gen 1's. For me, I just put gen 2 outer's on gen 1 shafts, and then put gen 2 hubs and brakes on my gen 1 spindles. SO I have a gen 1 car with full gen 2 brakes and shafts up front.
if you look to the "orange rally justy returns" thread it is kinda documented there.
You can put gen 2 shifters in gen 1 cars with just a little bracket, you could, for all intensive purposes put a full gen 2 drive train in a gen 1 car...
Ask a bit more specific and we can answer.
Gut your parts car...
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Post by indkid87 on Jul 24, 2014 20:05:43 GMT -5
I was hoping you'd chime in Matt, I'd be willing to bet you know the most about gen 1 and gen 2 compatability.
Patrick, the main things I'd worry about are the front suspension/axles/brakes, rear sway bar, engine (always nice to have a spare, and the shifter mount (check out my build thread, it'd be a bit easier to use a rod end in the back like I did).
Another thing to look at is the steering rack. I'm not sure they'd swap over but the gen 2 has a slower ratio to make it easier to steer.
If it was me I'd gut the whole car and just scrap what was junk. If you don't use it you can sell it.
-Dave
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Post by slomojusty on Jul 24, 2014 20:40:03 GMT -5
Thanks Dave and Matt. Im working on securing a parts car asap.
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Post by madmatt on Jul 27, 2014 16:13:31 GMT -5
Dave! Have you not got a Gen 1 steering rack yet??? DOOOO EEET! I've never actually checked the dif, but the Gen 1 is faster. After our off at Pines, Steering quickener is on the list... faster pussy cat...
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Post by indkid87 on Jul 27, 2014 19:00:37 GMT -5
Not yet, it's on my long list of thing to do that I don't have time for.
I have stumbled on a gen 1 2wd and a gen 2 4wd in the area. Now I just need to find somewhere to store them while I strip them for parts.
I'd like to see that quickener set up when your done. I'm not sure I'll go that far since mine is still used on the road.
-Dave
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Post by gearheadeh on Jul 31, 2014 8:47:52 GMT -5
Not yet, it's on my long list of thing to do that I don't have time for. I have stumbled on a gen 1 2wd and a gen 2 4wd in the area. Now I just need to find somewhere to store them while I strip them for parts. I'd like to see that quickener set up when your done. I'm not sure I'll go that far since mine is still used on the road. -Dave What about a smaller steering wheel as a cheapy make to do sort of thing?
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Post by madmatt on Aug 2, 2014 8:05:56 GMT -5
Gearheadeh,
Great question! Unfortunately, the steering wheel isn't a driven "gear", so what you are concerned with is actual degrees of rotation. A smaller wheel would just make it harder to turn, while not increasing the ratio of steering wheel turns to wheel steering angle.
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Post by indkid87 on Aug 3, 2014 8:45:52 GMT -5
A smaller wheel wouldn't change the steering ratio. However, it would decrease the amount you need to move your hand in order to achieve A given degree of rotation. So it does help a little.
But, as Matt said it does make it harder to turn, especially at low speeds.
-Dave
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