coal
Lets roll. When I get rollin.
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Post by coal on Dec 9, 2007 22:05:48 GMT -5
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coal
Lets roll. When I get rollin.
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Post by coal on Dec 9, 2007 22:08:37 GMT -5
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coal
Lets roll. When I get rollin.
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Post by coal on Dec 9, 2007 22:12:48 GMT -5
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SeattleJusty
No, a boxer will not fit in a Justy.
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Post by SeattleJusty on Dec 9, 2007 22:24:01 GMT -5
Coal, you bring a tear to my eye. Those are the most beautiful pictures I have ever seen on this forum. You are keeping alive the truest spirit of Justy! Good work, we're all watching you.
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coal
Lets roll. When I get rollin.
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Post by coal on Dec 9, 2007 22:29:29 GMT -5
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coal
Lets roll. When I get rollin.
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Post by coal on Dec 9, 2007 22:42:52 GMT -5
Thanks for the comments I still have a little way to go. I was hoping to have it running before the end of the year. However wether is really hard to predict in the northwest So I dont think it is going to happen. I lost my train of thought.
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coal
Lets roll. When I get rollin.
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Post by coal on Dec 9, 2007 22:45:48 GMT -5
The white goo in the top picture is assembly lube. I thought it would be a good idea to have somthing in the line to prime the pum on initial start up for a little added protection. Then on my dip stick tube that seems to be having some issues. I will get some pictures in a few days.
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coal
Lets roll. When I get rollin.
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Post by coal on Dec 9, 2007 23:36:33 GMT -5
I have bosch plugs when all is said and done.
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SeattleJusty
No, a boxer will not fit in a Justy.
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Post by SeattleJusty on Dec 10, 2007 1:00:05 GMT -5
Good question about the timing cover! I have so many thoughts about this. On the one hand I normally dislike timing covers (especially plastic ones) but the Justy has a cover that isn't that ugly. Still though I have always stared at my engines and wondered how cool they would look sans cover. One potential problem with deleting it I think is that the timing pointer is integrated in the lower half of the plastic cover (isn't it?). I have thought about maybe taking off just the top half to expose the cam pulley and leaving the lower half with the pointer. I'd like to hear other people's thoughts.
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coal
Lets roll. When I get rollin.
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Post by coal on Dec 10, 2007 1:12:42 GMT -5
I think I can get it installed all god and well without the cover, the issue arises when I start to drive if debris will find its way in and blow everything to shenanobits!
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Post by gearheadeh on Dec 10, 2007 9:00:03 GMT -5
Coal This is just fantastic that someone is actually rebuilding one of these engines and sharing the pics, can't wait to hear how well it all works in the car as far as acceleration/power wise.I don't want to hyjack this post but Iam compelled to share a story from way back in 1978 when I was in high school.This will be embarrassing for me but Iam concerened if putting assembly lube in the oil piump pickup was the best idea.I had rebuilt a 1299cc Austin America engine to put in my dimunitive little Austin mini,this engine is 301cc bigger than stock and I had high expectations. Wanting the best (in my then young mind)assembly lube,I used STP oil additive.very high viscosity stuff!.With this stuff on the bearings I learned after complete engine instalation that the starter couldn't turn it over.Tried dragging the car with a pickup truck but the tires just slipped when I dumped the clutch.I had to pull out the engine,wipe off all the Stp and reinnstall the engine. Even then i had to pull start it !It ran great after this and no it wasn't a clearance issue as i clearanced checked all of the bearings twice.
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Post by SUBIEJIM on Dec 10, 2007 10:27:28 GMT -5
Coal, Excellent pictures! ;D Just to mention two things... 1)... Do NOT assemble the engine and run/drive it without the timing covers in place. This is a recipe for disaster! Any and all types of debris can fly up in there and foul the belt causing it to break. One of my students "busted" his "cover less" Acura Integra at 65mph due to this condition. Also, If you live in an area where you regularly get ice/snow with freezing temps at night the belt can belt freeze to the pulleys over night and break the belt on start up. (I have seen this happen when I lived in NY on cars with just a cracked lower cover!) I know it looks cool and the Justy has a NON interference engine but, you don't want to take a chance on breaking a cam or tearing up the tensioner and or gears. You put alot of time and money in that little Justy mill... Keep it safe! 2)... Assembly lube is good but, you should not squirt it down into the pick up tube. When I do my Justy engines I install my new oil pump then pack the gears and cavity with Trans-gel (vasoline) then I install the cover and 3 small bolts. I leave the pickup dry. You MUST pack the pump in such a way to prime it. If you do not pack/prime the pump it will not pick up oil from the pan and a dry start will occur. The oil light will stay on and the bearings will cook. I do not know if you primed your oil pump in this way, if you did, your good to go. If not, I would prime the pump and clean the assembly lube out of the oil pickup. This should give you good oil pressure right at start up, provided the pump and clearances are all within spec. Good Luck an keep us posted! Jim
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coal
Lets roll. When I get rollin.
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Post by coal on Dec 10, 2007 11:21:39 GMT -5
Ok good info. I only have the assembly lube and I did pack that in to the oil pump housing. Is it recomended I clear that out and go get some vaseline to put in there. I will be fure to put the timing belt cover back on. I just need to search for the bolts I have no idea where they are.
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Post by ripcuda on Dec 10, 2007 14:13:05 GMT -5
Ok good info. I only have the assembly lube and I did pack that in to the oil pump housing. Is it recomended I clear that out and go get some vaseline to put in there. I will be fure to put the timing belt cover back on. I just need to search for the bolts I have no idea where they are. Coal... sweet pics... looks like it's coming along nicely. I'll second SUBIEJIM's comments about only packing the oil pump and not the pickup tube. And you should be fine using assembly lube to prime/pack the oil pump. I've used it on past engine rebuilds. It's a light weight lube that's designed to dissolve in the oil. That's why it works great to provide that initial lubrication until your oil system gets primed and flowing. Do remember though.... shortly after you get the engine running... you'll want to change the oil and filter to get fresh oil in there. Keep us posted!
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Post by sirhannick on Dec 10, 2007 17:10:26 GMT -5
Coal that is art. I love how almost all the components are new or newly refabed. It just makes it look so nice. I know it's costly, but a powder coat would preserved the beauty. I think you should take a picture when you're done of you holding the engine in your arms smiling to demonstrate how light it is....if it is that light...
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Post by SUBIEJIM on Dec 10, 2007 17:34:03 GMT -5
Coal, Assembly lube is fine for packing the pump... I use vasoline only cause it's cheaper Just clean out the pickup and you'll be fine. As mentioned, change the oil shortly after break in. Good luck! Jim
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SeattleJusty
No, a boxer will not fit in a Justy.
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Post by SeattleJusty on Dec 10, 2007 18:38:50 GMT -5
Coal that is art. I love how almost all the components are new or newly refabed. It just makes it look so nice. I know it's costly, but a powder coat would preserved the beauty. I think you should take a picture when you're done of you holding the engine in your arms smiling to demonstrate how light it is....if it is that light... I have dead lifted a Justy shortblock by myself and I don't recommend it. Trying to lift a longblock could be dangerous. If you drop it not only will you wreck your engine but you will probably injure yourself. Lord knows what 200LBs would do to your foot!
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Post by davefman on Dec 10, 2007 20:01:10 GMT -5
I was able to lift my justy longblock and carry it to the passenger seat of my other car and then from the car to the engine hoist where I reattached the transaxle. It was quite a load for me to carry and I'm a pretty tall guy. If you do, just be careful and sure that you can support the weight. I packed my oil pump with vaseline and it picked up pressure right on startup. I'm sorry to everyone about not posting pics of my finished motor but I never seemed to have a camera around when I needed it and I was trying to beat the clock as the justy was my only reliable vehicle at the time and still is for that matter. Great pics coal. I'm getting all nostalgic of 6 months ago. It's beautiful. You've done a fine job. props.
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coal
Lets roll. When I get rollin.
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Post by coal on Dec 10, 2007 21:39:38 GMT -5
I will fill my filter with oil before I first start it up, that is a habbit that I have had for about 10 years. I just think it makes sense to have some fluid in before you get all crazy. There is a problem with doing this on a justy engine the filter sits sideways and the oil likes to pour out while I install the filter.
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Post by sirhannick on Dec 11, 2007 12:28:35 GMT -5
I would have the engine crank over several times before you let it fire. Just kill fuel & spark and let it get everything moving around. That way also if something is wrong you'll be able to hear and detect it before real serious damage to new parts is done. I 2nd on the Vaseline suggestion. We used it in trans class all the time because it will melt and mix with the oil. It won't stay in or do anything bad. Keyword: "petrol"
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